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Thiago V. S. Coelho's avatar

Very nice post, I have argued against it here: https://thiagovscoelho.substack.com/p/response-to-taylor-belrose-on-ai

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Thought-provoking!

One thing I was thinking about while reading is that the 4 key criteria you're laying out are quite entangled with each other. The reasons you lay out that the AIs we have now are not singular, private, ineffable, or qualitative all seem to stem from the fact that we can read out / copy their exact state. It seems to me that it's not too hard to make this impossible for us, though.

If I were to set up a machine with a locally running LLM, encrypt the disk & throw away the key, and maybe add a few analog components (like the person that hooked up a thermometer and light sensor to their copy of Claude and brought them to the eclipse!), suddenly we have an AI that ticks all your boxes. If you leave that system running long enough writing memory files and reading from its thermometer or whatever, you can no longer interact with it without irreversibly changing its state.

Your arguments against computers being able to host consciousness all seem to hinge on the fact that we can perfectly describe/copy them, but that's just an implementation detail, not inherent. More broadly, the motivation for why these specific criteria are necessary and sufficient is not really clear to me.

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